Saturday, April 18, 2015

AZMEX I3 18-4-15

AZMEX I3 18 APR 2015

Note: Some interesting "reporting" It must be observed that confronting, debating, or shouting down speakers is acceptable only if done by progressives. Some may find "extensive background checks" of interest. Those who have spent time in Mexico and points south may not have quite that much confidence in the EBC's.

Posted: Apr 17, 2015 9:15 PM MST
Updated: Apr 17, 2015 9:16 PM MST
Tensions high in Southern Arizona over immigration
Written By Jeremy Thacker

Tucson - Tensions are high in Southern Arizona over immigration.

A protest formed during a forum Friday night organized by congressman Raul Grijalva. The session was intended to educate parents and children about DACA rules, but it also stirred up a lot of emotion.

Grijalva was joined by Illinois Congressman Luis Gutierrez. Together, they instructed audience members on who is eligible for the Deferred Action Childhood Arrivals program. They also instructed people on what to do if ever asked about their legal status.

"This is about kids that sit next to your kids in class," said Grijalva. "This is about the kids that play baseball with your kids. This is about moms that work hard in restaurants and in other places. And this is about dads that work hard to keep their family going."

Among the theater full of supporters at Pima Community College West were more than two dozen men and women who came to protest the event. They felt the event was about teaching people how to break laws.

Several audience members walked out in a show of discontent halfway through the presentation. At least one man was asked to leave by campus police.


Congressmen offer message of optimism while opponent of immigration action escorted out of forum
By Justin Schecker. CREATED Apr 17, 2015

TUCSON (KGUN9-TV) - At Friday's forum at PCC West on the president's executive action on immigration, children shared how the status quo has left them separated from loved ones.

"I'm going to keep dreaming," Gerardo Grijalva said, "I know that you will keep fighting too, si se puede."
His mother Rosa Robles Loreto is still in sanctuary at the Southside Presbyterian Church and she does not fall under President Obama's executive order because her children weren't born in the United States.

The purpose of the forum hosted by Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Tucson) and Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL) was to educate those who do. "Inevitably, the president's order will be upheld constitutionally and in doing so people begin to prepare do not lose hope," Rep. Grijalva told 9 On Your Side before taking the stage.

Not everyone in the PCC auditorium agreed with Rep. Grijalva. Del Dawley stood up and interrupted him more than once. "All I'm asking for is some common courtesy," Rep. Grijalva said.
"And you haven't given it to me," Dawley said. Police escorted Dawley out of the building. Outside, he joined protestors and defended his behavior.

"You were shouting out at a forum at an elected official who was speaking, how was that not rude what you did?" 9 On Your Side asked Dawley. "How is that not rude," he said, "why should I respect him when he doesn't respect the flag."

Inside the forum, Congressman Gutierrez laid out the steps for undocumented immigrants hoping soon they'll no longer fear deportation. He says they should get a hold of birth certificates from their home countries and find documentation like medical or phone bills to prove how long they have lived in the U.S.

"This is for adults who have been here five years," Rep. Gutierrez said about the president's executive order, "can go through a background check, a criminal background check, pay for their own fingerprint processing and have American citizen children. If you show you live in an American family, we can get you a work permit."

The fate of the president's executive action on immigration is tied up in the Federal Court of Appeals.


Apr 17, 11:00 PM EDT
Immigration forum interrupted by hecklers
Associated Press

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) -- An immigration forum in Tucson on Friday evening turned contentious after anti-illegal immigration protesters repeatedly interrupted the two U.S. congressmen who hosted it.

The forum at Pima Community College was hosted by Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Arizona, and Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Illinois, and was meant to inform attendees about the President Barack Obama program that protects immigrant youths from deportation.

A federal appeals court heard arguments in a case against a large expansion of that program that would also protect parents of U.S.-born children from deportation. A federal judge in Texas put that expansion on hold in February shortly before it was supposed to take effect.

But Grijalva's and Gutierrez's speeches were repeatedly interrupted by angry protesters who called them traitors. Both congressmen pleaded with the hecklers and the audience to be civil, to no avail.

Del Dawley of Tucson was escorted out after he approached Grijalva and refused to stop yelling at him.
Dawley said later he was offended by remarks Grijalva made claiming the American flag belongs to everyone. "We have a process, a rule of law," Dawley said. "I would like to see all illegal aliens deported."

Grijalva and Gutierrez praised Obama's Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, which protects youths who were brought to the country illegally as children and who meet certain qualifications from deportation while allowing them to legally work.

Gutierrez said participants in the program, also known as DACA, pay for extensive background checks to receive the protections. "I think it's much more beneficial to have them on the books than off the books," Gutierrez said.


Note: Locals are very familiar with Mary Rose.

Local Hispanics Rally to Support President's Executive Orders
Posted Friday, April 17th 2015 @ 7pm

(KFYI News) – Local Hispanics gathered outside the federal courthouse in downtown Phoenix on Friday to mark oral arguments taking place before a federal appeals court in New Orleans over President Obama's executive orders on immigration.

At issue was whether the state of Texas had legal standing to sue the federal government over the executive orders creating the DACA and DAPA programs, granting deportation deferrals to DREAMers and their parents and work permits to the DREAMers themselves.

Former Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox said those affected by the DACA and DAPA programs are key ingredients of the US economy, "and who are citizens in every way but the paper. They're adding to our economy in a way that is incredible. They're a vibrant part of our American fabric and we need to legalize them."

Lydia Guzman of LULAC added, "Let's face it. The reason we're here is because Congress refused to give us immigration reform. It gave the President no other alternative but to pass this executive order."

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Note: had to include this one.

ICE Director's Brazen Answer on Whether Agents Should Follow the Law, or Obama's Immigration Directives
Apr. 16, 2015 8:48am Pete Kasperowicz

The director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Wednesday that she has no problem telling her agents to follow President Barack Obama's orders when it comes to immigration, even when those orders violate the law as passed by Congress.

ICE Director Sarah Saldana attended a hearing held by a subcommittee of the House Budget Committee. In that hearing, Rep. David Young (R-Iowa) said he was worried about reports that some ICE officials aren't sure whether to enforce the law as it's written, or enforce the White House directive to relax deportation efforts against what they call low-priority illegal immigrants.

"If I had policies or directives that were contrary to the law, I would understand if they didn't want to follow them. I would expect them to follow the law first," Young said.
To that, Saldana replied, "And that's where you and I probably have a fundamental disagreement." (The exchange begins at the 1:25:30 mark in the video above.)

In a radio interview with Simon Conway in Iowa later that day, Young admitted he was floored by Saldana's statement, and said he couldn't believe her answer. "We have a senior administration official, the director of ICE, saying that guidelines, directives, trump the law," he said. "This is pretty serious."

The back-and-forth began when Young asked Saldana to respond to Obama's comment in February, when he said ICE officials needed to follow the White House's orders to relax enforcement against immigrants it has deemed to be a low priority for deportation. "If somebody's working for ICE, and there's a policy and they don't follow the policy, there are going to be consequences to it," Obama said then.

Those "consequences" have been widely interpreted to mean ICE officials could be fired for not following Obama's new instructions on immigration.

Young asked Saldana if Obama's comments concerned her in any way, given the implication that Obama was asking ICE to enforce his own directive, and not U.S. law.
"I'm trying to be honest with you, sir," Saldana replied. "No."

She then equated Obama's directive to any normal directive that a company or congressman might send out to their staffs. "I imagine you have staff that you expect to comply with your directives and your policies," she said. "I imagine the typical employer in the United States has employees who they expect to follow their directives, their policies."

After telling Young that they have a "fundamental disagreement" over whether directives or the law are controlling, Young then asked if she sees Obama's comments as a threat to ICE officials.

"A threat?" she laughed. "I am here of my own volition and will. I'm just trying to help the United States of America and our country on issues that are so divisive."


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